Gerade finde ich in meinem Postfach eine Mail die mich informiert das top concepts ihre Integration vom OXID eShop in das hauseigene CMS abgeschlossen ist. Für mich anlass genug ein bisschen etwas über das Thema OXID und CMS zu schreiben.
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Schon seit dem 4er Release gab es immer mal wieder Bemühungen diesem Problem Abhilfe zu schaffen und jetzt scheint eine weitere Lösung fertig zu sein. Was top concepts in ihrem Blog schreiben klingt vielversprechend. So wurde der eShop in das bestehende CMS eingebunden wobei das CMS der Master ist und jede benötigte eShop Funktionalität einzeln lädt/aufruft. Da das CMS eine SaaS Lösung ist kann man den Code leider nicht begutachten, muss sich als Nutzer bzw. Reseller aber auch keine Gedanken darüber machen 
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Zu guterletzt kann man auch selbst Hand an legen und mit ein paar einfachen Tricks das bordeigene CMS aufbohren. So kann man auch Artikel und Kategorien als CMS Seiten nutzen. Beiden kann man eigene Tempaltes zuweisen und beide besitzen ein WYSIWYG Textfeld. Damit haben wir dann die Möglichkeit CMS Seiten beliebig zu verschachteln (mit Hilfe der Kategorien) und können für jede CMS Seite eigene Templates vergeben (mit Hilfe des Template Feldes für Artikel und Kategorien). Auch werden dies CMS “Artikel” ohne weiteres durch die Suche gefunden. Ein bisschen sollte man den eShop jedoch durch eine Extension anpassen um z.B.
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- ein gesonderte Darstellung im Admin um die Pflege zu erleichtern
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Also auch hier kann man viel Zeit investieren, aber wem die bestehenden Lösungen nicht gefallen hat hiermit einen guten Ansatz es selbst zu machen.
Ich hoffe ich konnte den ein oder anderen Einblick hinterlassen und wer noch weitere OXID – CMS kennt möge doch bitte einen Kommentar hinterlassen.
Tweets die OXID eShop trifft CMS » Allgemein, Oxid - Module » die musterdenker erwähnt -- Topsy.com
on Jan 5th, 2010
@ 13:20:
[...] Dieser Eintrag wurde auf Twitter von Mathias Fiedler, open source erwähnt. open source sagte: OXID eShop trifft CMS » Allgemein, Oxid – Module » die musterdenker: Auch soll es vielleicht eine Open Source Version g http://url4.eu/13eim [...]
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@ 13:22:
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eine schöne Zusammenfasung, danke. Manches davon kannte ich auch noch nicht (was bei Oxid-Themen nicht SO häufig vorkommt
Ich habe mal ein Oxid-RSS-Feed Modul gebaut, das aus jeder bel. Artikelkategorie (egal wie erzeugt) einen RSS Feed bauen kann.
Sinn der Sache war eine CMS Bridge: wenn das CMS Feeds konsumieren und gescheit darstellen kann, kann man so zwei eigenständige Systeme zwanglos verknüpfen. Wenn man dieses Konzept dann noch um einen RSS Feed für die Kategorien ergänzt, könnte man beliebige Ausschitte eines Oxid Shops in einem fast beliebigen CMS darstellen
Viele Grüße,
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@ 13:23:
unsere Lösung OXID2CON Portal integriert Inhalte aus CMS Contenido in den OXID eShop, der Shop ist also der Master:
http://www.4fb.de/Loesungen/Shopsystem-OXID-eShop/OXID2CON/OXID2CON-Portal/
Die Vermarktung startet demnächst über OXID eXchange.
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@ 14:01:
@Christian: oh Contenido kannte ich noch gar nicht. Sobald die Schnittstelle fertig ist werde ich sie mir mal anschauen
@Volker: Und wie sollten bei dieser Lösung Warenkorb / Login etc gehandhabt werden? Der Ansatz jedoch gefällt mir. Aber kann der Shop Kategorie RSS Feeds nicht schon “out of the box”? Oder habe ich hier etwas nicht ganz verstanden?
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on Jan 6th, 2010
@ 16:30:
@mathias: Stimmt, gibt mittlerweile eine Reihe von Oxid RSS Feeds konfigurierbar im Shop. Das erwähnte Modul ist schon ein wenig älter. Mit Kategorie-Feed meinte ich: einen Feed, der eine Liste aller Shopkategorien enthält, nicht Artikel in einer Kategorie. Das Warenkorb-Argument ist dann ein solches, wenn man sozusagen den Shop ins CMS ziehen möchte. Für eine Anbindung (im Sinne von Querverweisen) des Shops an ein CMS würden die RSS Feeds ja reichen.
Fragt sich ja immer: was soll die Site sein? Ein Shop mit Content oder eine Site mit einem (bisschen) Shop? Davon würde abhängen, ob man ein CMS mit Shop-Plugin, einen Shop mit CMS-Fähigkeiten oder einen ausgewachsenen SHop und ein CMS parallel installiert.
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Hallo,
also TOXID wird, wie in den Kommentaren erwähnt, auf alle Fälle für TYPO3 und die OXID CE frei verfügbar sein! Wie eine Lizenzierung für dei PE aussehen soll, wird sich noch zeigen.
Warum wir den Shop als Master nehmen, hat relativ simple Gründe: Wir können (vorerst) auf eine Singel-Sign-On-Lösung verzichten. Was in der ersten Version noch nicht gehen wird, ist also eine Registrierung in einem internen Bereich von TYPO3.
Zur Fertigstellung: Das ist natürlich immer so eine Sache
Der erste Shop soll mit einer Grundfunktionalität spätestens Anfang Februar starten. Allerdings wird die Funktion bis dahin noch nicht in ein Modul gepackt sein.
Die weiteren Funktionen kommen dann nach Bedarf hinzu.
OXID trifft CMS Part 2 » Allgemein, Oxid - Module » die musterdenker
on Jan 11th, 2010
@ 13:37:
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